سیستم عامل تحت وب

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به نظر می رسه برنامه نویسی دسکتاپ در ابعادی کم کم داره از رده خارج می شه، در حدی که نیاز به سیستم عامل های آنلاین نیز احساس میشه (نه در ایران!! چون اینجا مگه اینترنت داریم!!)

به هر حال بد نیست این دو مطلب رو بخونید که نگاهی مختصر به چندین سیستم عامل تحت وب یا webtop کرده:
http://franticindustries.com/blog/2006/12/21/big-webos-roundup-10-online-operating-systems-reviewed/

http://franticindustries.com/blog/2007/06/16/another-10-web-operating-systems-reviewed/

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لینک اول اینه:



Big WebOS roundup - 10 online operating systems reviewed (http://franticindustries.com/blog/2006/12/21/big-webos-roundup-10-online-operating-systems-reviewed/)

Published by Stan Schroeder (http://franticindustries.com/blog/author/admin/) December 21st, 2006 in Features (http://franticindustries.com/blog/category/features/), Web 2.0 (http://franticindustries.com/blog/category/web/web-20/), Web (http://franticindustries.com/blog/category/web/), Reviews (http://franticindustries.com/blog/category/web/reviews/) Tags: features (http://franticindustries.com/blog/index.php?tag=features), online OS (http://franticindustries.com/blog/index.php?tag=online-os), Reviews (http://franticindustries.com/blog/index.php?tag=reviews), web (http://franticindustries.com/blog/index.php?tag=web), web 2.0 (http://franticindustries.com/blog/index.php?tag=web-2.0), WebOS (http://franticindustries.com/blog/index.php?tag=webos).

While we’re waiting for Google to launch its own Google OS (if the rumours are true, of course), I’ve checked out 10 web operating systems and what they can do. Not many of them feel like finished and fully usable products, but there are some true gems among them.
Admit it: you didn’t think there were that many WebOSes around, did you?
Neither did I. You can find month or two old articles on the web which talk about a WebOS as a recently forged concept, yet to be realized. YouOS was practically the only one that had media coverage, so when I began the research for this article, I hoped to find five usable WebOS applications at best.
I was wrong. There are over 10 fully functional WebOS applications out there, and a couple more that are announced or in closed betas.
But what is a WebOS (not to be confused with another definition of the term, see here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_operating_system)), or a Webtop, anyway ? Here’s a simple definition: WebOS is a virtual operating system that runs in your web browser. More precisely, it’s a set of applications running in a web browser that together mimic, replace or largely supplement a desktop OS environment. It’s a tough field to start in for a Web 2.0 entrepreneur, because to be successful you need to create several applications that are at least as good as other competitors, and you need to connect them all into a usable bundle. What’s also expected by most users is that all this looks decent, operates similarly to a “real” OS and behaves as a real “OS” would, and is relatively bug-free. Simply put, to gain real everyday users, your WebOS has to be damn good. We’ll see how these newcomers fare in the following months and when (and if) some big giant like Google decides to create their own WebOS.
So, without further ado, let’s see what the 10 WebOS services I’ve gathered here (in alphabetical order) today can offer to the user. Bear in mind that not many of these services are mature enough to receive a proper, thorough review; this is more of a ‘first look’ kind of thing than a full-featured review.
1. Craythur (http://www.craythur.com/)
http://franticindustries.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/craythur.thumbnail.jpg (http://franticindustries.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/craythur.jpg)Craythur is a completely new WebOS that puts big emphasis on looks, and it does that part really well, with a well chosen desktop background and transparent window borders similar to those Vista’s Aero. However, the apps themselves are more alpha than beta. For one thing, they’re mostly not translated from Spanish. They work, but nothing more than that; none of them can hold their own against any decent comparative application, web-based or otherwise. Since this is obviously an application at its very early stages, let’s just leave it at good-looking and come back in a few months to see the progress.
2. Desktoptwo (http://desktoptwo.com/)
http://franticindustries.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/desktoptwo.thumbnail.jpg (http://franticindustries.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/desktoptwo.jpg)If there’s such things as “serious WebOS players”, Desktoptwo is one of them. It’s a Flash based fully featured WebOS which requires registration to try, immediately giving you your own mini-site and your own Desktoptwo email address to use. Desktoptwo is Flash-based, and while I’m not thrilled about Flash Web 2.0 applications, most of the OSes from this list work in Flash, and I must admit that some do it pretty well. Desktoptwo’s apps can be slow, and a certain amount of bugs are present (when i clicked on Message Board preferences, everything got garbled up), but not so much to ruin your experience with the service. One more thing: Desktoptwo opens in a popup, which is sure to annoy some users.
Feature-wise, Desktoptwo delivers and then some. You’ve got search, clock and sysinfo widget, a dock, MP3 player, RSS reader, Instant messenger, OpenOffice, HTML editor, notepad, and several others. Unfortunately, several of these open in popups, which somehow makes you remember you’re in Windows. Furthermore, if you close the Desktoptwo window and log in again, some of your settings are forgotten. However, your content, for example, the files you save to the desktop, or the RSS feeds you add in the very functional RSS reader are remembered over sessions, which is good. Overall, Desktoptwo does many things well, but it needs to iron out a few usability/UI issues to become a really usable WebOS.

3. EyeOS (http://eyeos.org/)
http://franticindustries.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/eyeos.thumbnail.jpg (http://franticindustries.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/eyeos.jpg)Taking a bit of a different approach than other sites in this bunch, EyeOS offers you to download the EyeOS server files and install them on your on web server to use as you please. You can also try out a demo which is hosted on the free public server eyeos.info, which also provides free accounts of eyeOS to everyone who wants to use it without owning a private server. The public server is funded through donations, and there’s still quite a way to go, so if you like EyeOS, go ahead and help them.
EyeOS itself is functional, not too buggy, but a bit slow and a bit bland. You have your standard calendar, calculator, address book, RSS reader, simple word processor, file uploader and a few others, but they have pretty limited functionality, and they all look more like test apps than something you’d really use in day to day work. Furthermore, some of the options simply do not work, for example changing the wallpaper.
Although EyeOS seems to be an ambitious project, it doesn’t offer much more than, for example, Craythur. It looks nice, it works, but its apps aren’t interesting enough to actually use it for any serious work.
4. Glide (http://www.glidedigital.com/)
http://franticindustries.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/glide.thumbnail.jpg (http://franticindustries.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/glide.jpg)This text was actually postponed because Glide registration was closed until 19th of December, and I wanted to squeeze it into this list. And lo and behold; they’ve gotten real serious after the relaunch. So serious that besides free registration, they offer things like family standard and family premium plans (for the last one the fee is $149.95 yearly). For registration. they also require verification via an SMS message. This got me interested, as it is the only WebOS around that thinks of itself highly enough to actually start charging for the service.
And, to some extent, Glide delivers. It’s Flash-based, and it’s not really trying to mimic Windows or any similar desktop environment, choosing a unique GUI of its own instead. It lets you upload and store up to 1 GB of files, read RSS feeds, manage bookmarks, appointments, chat, create documents, view picturess. It’s also designed pretty well - at least at first sight. However, it’s somewhat similar to DesktopTwo in some areas, sharing a number of negative traits with it. First of all, some apps open in a popup, for which I really can’t see a good reason. Furthermore, some of the applications don’t seem to be as polished graphically as the rest of the interface. Some of the apps are just plain buggy - the Calendar simply did not work, reporting an error as soon as I clicked it.
These are mostly minor errors, but they add up. For me, an additional problem was the interface itself which is pretty confusing. It took time figuring out how to do simple tasks like reading RSS feeds, and once I closed certain areas of the Webtop, it was pretty hard to find them again. Like many other services in this list, you can definitely see that a lot of effort has been put into Glide, and some of its parts are done well, however it still has a long way to go (especially if you pay for it).

5. Goowy (http://www.goowy.com/)
http://franticindustries.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/goowy.thumbnail.jpg (http://franticindustries.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/goowy.jpg)Goowy is also Flash-based, but I don’t feel any of the usual negative traits that Flash can bring. It has lots of well-written and usable applications, it’s not lightning fast but it’s not too slow either, and it all works within the same window with the standard desktop-OS-like toolbar. The apps…well, the apps are great. They open in windows you can move around your webtop using a pretty precise grid, which makes organization really easy. You’ve got your standard file-uploader, mail application, RSS reader, instant messenger, bookmarks, calendar and contacts. All of these apps are very well made; for example, the RSS reading functionality is almost as good as in my online reader of choice - Netvibes. I wouldn’t exchange Netvibes for it just yet, but if weren’t able to use Netvibes anymore, Goowy would do just fine. Same goes for other applications, which makes Goowy by far the most usable WebOS in this list.

As far as settings go, you’ve got a lot to choose from. Actually, Goowy is so advanced that I almost feel bad giving it a short rundown instead of a full-featured review it deserves, and I will probably make up for it sometime. Let’s just mention it has a spell checker and a spam filter, which shows the devotion to detail in this product.
Although this text is not a contest, if I had to pick just one WebOS to use, Goowy would be it - and by a big margin. The learning curve is very short; it looks sexy, it has a solid number of well-written applications, and it’s all pretty-much bug free. Great job.

6. Orca (http://www.orcaa.com/)
http://franticindustries.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/orca.thumbnail.jpg (http://franticindustries.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/orca.jpg)WebOS is a pretty complex application and there’s no two ways about it. So when I see things like “Muly” as one choice for the month of birth or when the “create account” button is missing altogether, I think “sloppy”. And that’s exactly how Orca turned out to be in the end.
I will utter three little words and 70% of readers will skip to the next item in the list: no Firefox support. And they’re right: you simply cannot create an application meant primarily for tech-aware users and not have support for the tech-savvy browser of choice. But even in IE, Orca is simply an unfinished, early alpha, hey-i-can-now-invite-a-few-friends-to-test-this product. Best of luck to the developers, but at this stage Orca is not worth your time.
*Update: one of Orca’s developers (thanks, Nipun) contacted me through comments and we’ve come to the conclusion that my bad experience with Orca was due to some kind of temporary bug. The screenshot that I’ve taken and that you can see here does not represent Orca in the real light. I’ve tried Orca again, and I can confirm that it worked a lot better this time. Here’s a really short recap of my second experience with Orca:
- Orca does indeed feature many applications: Media Player, Zoho Office suite, a web browser, calendar, RSS reader, notepad, file manager and several games. Although still not bug-free, when I’ve tried it the second time all of these applications were fully usable.

- Nipun also pointed out to me that the developers of Orca are preparing a new version which will support browsers other than IE. He also told me about Orczilla, a “linux distribution, which you can boot of the CD (or install) and boot into a browser that opens your Orca Desktop.” This is an interesting concept which can make a WebOS a step closer to real, desktop operating systems.
7. Purefect (http://purefect.klorofil.org/demo/)
http://franticindustries.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/purefect.thumbnail.jpg (http://franticindustries.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/purefect.jpg)Purefect is also at an early stage of development, but it’s at least showing some promise. It tries to mimic the Windows environment completely, down to the icons, which is in my opinion the wrong path to choose. There are just a few apps, like file explorer, memory game and calculator, and as far as settings go you can set the display preferences. It’s functional, but pretty buggy (you can access other users’ files in the file explorer), and there simply isn’t much to do. Like Craythur, it might be interesting to check it out again in a couple of months to see if there’s any progress, but for now it’s just not usable.

8. SSOE (http://giffard.dynalias.net/ssoe/)
http://franticindustries.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/ssoe.thumbnail.jpg (http://franticindustries.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/ssoe.jpg)SSOE seems to be a project that’s looking far ahead. The author is the first to admit that the kernel of the OS is perhaps 10% written at this point and it gives you a choice of a relatively stable and a newer, unstable version to choose from.
And it’s all true. SSOE looks is more a technology demo than something you would even consider to use, regardless of which version you choose. But even at this early stage of development, I will feel free to give the author a pointer: those huge icons, and badly done brushed metal windows, are ugly. Noone is going to use them if they look like that. Other than that I can’t say much about SSOE because 80% of stuff I’ve tried to click on did not work. Best of luck in the future, next please.

9. XinDESK (http://www.xindesk.com/)
http://franticindustries.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/xindesk.thumbnail.jpg (http://franticindustries.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/xindesk.jpg)XinDESK is the only one out of the 10 WebOS apps listed here that I didn’t actually try out, because they don’t have a demo or an alpha version yet. However, browsing through the author’s blog one can find some interesting facts about the service. Here’s a couple of quotes:
“The core of Xindesk is a WebOS featuring application that opens and saves the standard office formats. Xindesk is the first web operating system that works easily, even for people without deep computer knowledge. The WebOS is an open platform, just like Windows and Mac OS. This enables anyone to develop new applications.”
“Every Xindesk application you develop can also be installed on all versions of windows.”
All in all, it doesn’t sound too shoddy, and I look forward to checking out this service again when it’s available to the public. You can check out a couple of screenshots over at XinDESK blog (http://xinteleport.blogspot.com/).
10. YouOS (https://www.youos.com/)
http://franticindustries.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/youos.thumbnail.jpg (http://franticindustries.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/youos.jpg)Before I’ve started writing this piece, the only OS I’ve heard something about in the news was YouOS. And you can see that a fair amount of serious development went into the product, as there are quite a number of useful applications here, including a very good chat client, IM software, file browser, RSS reader and a couple of others. The applications can be moved accross the desktop, look pretty much like standard desktop apps and respond well with some minor issues (for example, the resizing of the RSS reader window did not go too smoothly). You can browse through your open applications using a toolbar similar to the Windows taskbar, which also works as intended.
Unfortunately, YouOS is a bit lacking in the design department. It’s windows and applications are usable, but they’re certainly not beautiful. It does not impede the functionality, but it does somewhat diminish the overall experience.
As far as the general usability applications go, I’d say YouOS takes a second place to Goowy. Its apps are fully functional, but lack a few details, be it in the design or functionality department, that would keep me from using YouOS on a daily basis. However, YouOS is definitely a very serious contender in the WebOS field, and it might turn into a force to be reckoned with.
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So, there we go - a short scan of 10 web operating systems shows us that this neck of the woods is promising, but still young and suffering from many a beginner’s disease. I’d say that YouOS, Goowy and DesktopTwo are the names you should watch now and in the near future, while the others *might* turn into promising products, but we’ll have to wait a month or two for that to happen. Also, keep in mind that while it’s relatively easy to judge who has the best functionality, it’s much harder to see who has the best code, or the most solid framework to build upon, so it’s safe to say that we can expect a few surprises to happen here.
*Sites to look out in the future: www.ajax13.com (http://www.ajax13.com/), parakey.com (http://parakey.com/)
*Honorable mentions: osx.portraitofakite.com (http://osx.portraitofakite.com/)

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لینک دوم هم اینه:



Another 10 web operating systems reviewed (http://franticindustries.com/blog/2007/06/16/another-10-web-operating-systems-reviewed/)

Published by Stan Schroeder (http://franticindustries.com/blog/author/admin/) June 16th, 2007 in Features (http://franticindustries.com/blog/category/features/), Web 2.0 (http://franticindustries.com/blog/category/web/web-20/), Web (http://franticindustries.com/blog/category/web/), Reviews (http://franticindustries.com/blog/category/web/reviews/) Tags: features (http://franticindustries.com/blog/index.php?tag=features), online OS (http://franticindustries.com/blog/index.php?tag=online-os), Reviews (http://franticindustries.com/blog/index.php?tag=reviews), web (http://franticindustries.com/blog/index.php?tag=web), web 2.0 (http://franticindustries.com/blog/index.php?tag=web-2.0), Web operating system (http://franticindustries.com/blog/index.php?tag=web-operating-system), WebOS (http://franticindustries.com/blog/index.php?tag=webos).

Several months have passed since I wrote my original review of 10 WebOS-type applications (http://franticindustries.com/blog/2006/12/21/big-webos-roundup-10-online-operating-systems-reviewed/). Although Google hasn’t really made an (expected) move in this field yet, the topic still spurs a lot of interest, and many new applications have been launched. It’s time to review another 10 web operating systems.
Again, one must take into account that many, if not all, of these applications are in very early stages of development. Some promise to be real competition to desktop OS’s, while some don’t promise anything, standing out there as functional betas without even a word from the developers. Whatever your opinion on the WebOS phenomenon may be, keep in mind that the boundaries, categories and definitions for this article are set rather loosely. For the purpose of this article, just like the first one, a WebOS is defined as virtual operating system that runs in a web browser environement. Don’t like WebOS? Well, call it OnlineOS, or WebTop if you like.
So, here is a review of another 10 functional WebOS’, as well as some additional similar services which show promise but aren’t launched or fully realized yet.
DesktopOnDemand (https://desktopondemand.com/)
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DesktopOnDemand seems to be the most ambitious service on this list, which is why I was unpleasantly surprised with some very annoying login problems. Simply put, I was unable to login and it took some 10 tries to start the application at all. When it finally did start, it crashed immediately, and I had to restart.
All this is unfortunate, because DesktopOnDemand offers a lot. It is, simply put, Linux, in your web browser. Given the complexity of Linux as opposed to many other apps described here, I won’t go into details - just imagine one of those Live CD Linux distros inside a web browser window. Needless to say, the choice of applications is fantastic, and you can definitely use DOD to do real work, store data (you get 1 GB of storage), browse (anonymously) the Internet etc. The speed is not stellar but it’s bearable, and the stability and functionality is, well, pretty much the same of any light or Live CD Linux distro.
While DesktopOnDemand’s approach obviously offers much more than the competition, there are a couple of things we didn’t like. As opposed to most other services on this list, DOD requires you to download an install an application for it to operate (you can alternatively choose a Java-powered version of DOD which didn’t work for me). This means that it’s not something you can easily and quickly use from any computer, and in some ways it defeats the whole purpose of the concept of a WebOS. This said, I must say that DesktopOnDemand is impressive with some regards and is definitely one to keep an eye on in the future.
G.ho.st (http://g.ho.st/)
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This cryptically named offering (Ghost is short for Global Hosted Operating SysTem) is Flash-based, and it has come a long way since the first time I’ve tried it out. GUI-wise it resembles Windows, but it goes farther than just mimicking its look and feel, offering for examples, animations and fade in/out transitions. The available applications are numerous and quite standard for a WebOS: RSS reader, web browser, notes, clock, search, e-mail reader and instant messenger are some examples. G.ho.st lacks an office suite, but, as G.ho.st’s lead developer Zvi Schreiber told me, “Unlike the other “Web OSs” G.ho.st actually works with leading Web applications like Google docs and Flickr instead of being limited to our own Apps!…” “...G.ho.st actually provides a single sign-in and single file system to add value to those other apps.”
Registered users receive 3GB of free storage, and quite extensive help and support on every step. Instead of files, G.ho.st introduces objects. Here’s a quote from G.ho.st’s website explaining the concept:
“…instead of “Files” we have the more general concept of “Objects” - an Object can be a file hosted at G.ho.st or at a third part like Flickr® or Google®. An Object can also be a Service (like an App or Widget) or a real world object like a person, book, credit card. An Object can be anything really! Also you can put an Icon for the Object in many different Folders, not only one.”
G.ho.st works pretty well, but it’s not without the occasional weird bug with windows minimizing for no reason, or some graphical elements being slightly askew. Furthermore, many important and expected elements are missing: trash can, some context menus, or entire menus or confirmation dialogs in some cases. It’s enough to put off many a user from becoming a regular, but it’s obvious that a lot of effort has been invested into G.ho.st, and with some polishing, it could become a great service.
ODesktop (http://www.odesktop.net/)
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Odesktop comes with the following definition: “Using Ajax and PHP, it (ODesktop) mimics window-like applications behaviour in your web browser but also is designed to run multiple web applications at a time.” Besides this, they also offer the ability to install ODesktop on your own web host.
The first problem I’ve encountered with trying out ODesktop is the fact that the demo is in a language I do not understand (I would guess Malaysian). This, as you can imagine, made my life as a reviewer harder, but the icons and the info on the web site was straightforward enough to give it a quick glance (when I was already done with the review I’ve found the quite hidden option to switch to English language, after which I’ve gone and rereviewed Odesktop again). The GUI is nice and clean; it’s not the faster I’ve seen, but it’s fast enough; and, what’s even better, it doesn’t eat a lot of CPU time. The applications available are a file manager, music player, photo album, instant messenger, email client, a bunch of games and a cross between an RSS reader and a web browser. Solid, but not too impressive. As far as customization goes, some options are present, for example changing the wallpaper, but the options end as soon as they begin.
ODekstop offers 10 GB of storage - in theory - but its nifty way of uploading files by just dragging and dropping them on a toolbar didn’t work for me every time, sometimes causing the entire demo to freeze. All this makes ODekstop one of those applications that look good, and promise a lot, but there’s a small letdown at every corner. Verdict: more polishing, more applications, then we can talk.
AjaxWindows (http://www.ajaxwindows.com/)
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AjaxWindows tries really hard to replicate your desktop environment. Thus, when you start the service, you’ll be presented with a wizard that can synchronize your music, pictures, and documents folder, as well as wallpaper and some other details, with the AjaxWindows online experience.
Main AjaxWindows features, besides the synchronization, are secure connection, and 1GB of FREE storage for your files (plus more for MP3 files). There’s also a decent number of applications, most of which are web apps which come from the same company that built AjaxWindows - Ajax13 (http://us.ajax13.com/en/). There’s also a number of widgets, which include RSS feeds, weather info and the like.
As far as performance goes the entire experience is a bit slow, and the main window opens in a separate window, which can be annoying, but overall, it’s quite usable - unless you open too many applications which can cause a serious system slowdown.
AjaxWindows is the newest application in this roundup, but already it has quite a few things going for it - lots of applications, solid stability, and the synchronization feature which the competitors don’t have. However, the slowness of the entire experience could be enough to chase away many users, and it’s something they have to work on.
MyLGD (http://www.mylgd.com/)
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MyLGD is short for My Little Green Desktop, and that’s just about all the info I’ve found about the service. It’s a flash-based virtual OS environment which, surprisingly, works quite well. The applications open quite slowly, but the GUI is very fast, and takes little to no CPU time.
There’s quite a few applications available, including some games, calculator, calendar, photo browser, file browser, and several others. Many of them work quite well, sometimes better than the apps in some other similar products which initially look more polished.
Overall, no one will want to actually use MyLGD just yet because of lack of polish, absence of help and the general feel of an alpha product, but as a proof of concept it works quite well and it would be a shame if it were not developed further.
Nivio (http://www.nivio.com/)
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Nivio is similar to DesktopOnDemand, only on a different platform. It’s a Windows desktop environment in your browser, and for some reason, I didn’t particularly like this idea. Having Windows running in a Java window was painfully slow, and although many users will appreciate the fact that they can readily use this without having to learn anything new, I’m not really convinced that Windows is the best way to go for a WebOS - I’d prefer something simpler and built from the grounds up for this purpose; some may, of course, disagree.
With Nivio, you get a virtual Windows XP box, 5 GB of space for your data, backup options, virus and spam protection (and since this is Windows, you’ll probably need them), and of course, a big variety of applications - since this is Windows, the possibilities are endless. Nivio also offers some commercial software, like the Microsoft Office Suite, which is not to be neglected and is a huge advantage over other service on this list.
Nivio definitely has some things going for it, but having the WebOS run in a Java window has repeatedly turned out to be a bad option. The long waits and the overall sluggishness of the service, didn’t really make me want to try all that Nivio has to offer.
Schmedley (http://www.schmedley.com/)
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Webtop would probably be a more appropriate monicker for Schmedley than a WebOS. It’s a widget launchpad, similar to Goowy, but less ambitious. However, by not complicating things too much Schmedley manages to be what many other similar services are not: fast and useful.
Open the Schmedley homepage, and you’ll be greeted by a number of widgets (called schmidgets in Schmedley, go figure). They’re all fully functional and they work very fast. On the bottom there’s a OS X-like dock from which you can launch your schmidgets, while a similar dock for a bit more advanced applications sits on top. Of course, signing up means that settings will be kept from session to session.
Available schmidgets include a notepad, calendar, RSS reader, Gmail reader, Amazon search, image display, stock display, weather display, Instant Messaging and several others.
We have experienced exactly zero problems with Schmedley, which is admirable. However, one cannot notice that it’s trailing Goowy by far in the amount of widgets-schmidgets it supports, since Goowy users can choose from Yourminis respectable widget base. Still, for a lightweight widget launchpad, it fares quite well.
Dekoh (http://dekoh.com/)
http://franticindustries.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/dekoh.jpg
Dekoh is a very different beast from the other services in this roundup, some of its aspects being the exact opposite of a WebOS. Detailed information is available at the official Dekoh Wiki (http://www.dekoh.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp), but in short, it’s a cross-OS desktop platform which enables you to share your media online. The key word is platform: with some regards, Dekoh compares better with Adobe’s Apollo than with the other WebOS-style services, as it lets you deploy Java, Ajax, or Flash apps across multiple operating systems.
Focusing on the user experience and not the technicalities, Dekoh can be described as a way to share media from your web browser, but all the media you upload resides on your hard drive.
What’s the point of it, then? Well, the idea behind Dekoh is sharing: organize your data, then share it with others. For example, after installing one of the available applications, Dekoh Photos, I was able to create my own photo collection and then share it with other Dekoh users. If you’ve ever used Hamachi to let people access your network over the Internet, think of Dekoh as a simple way to do it with your media.
The Desktop Portal, the central place from which you can manage your applications, looks more like a CMS than an OS - it enables you to install and manage your applications, as well as communicate with your buddies from the Dekoh network. The applications themselves are quite advanced, but I’ve had quite a few speed issues (music importing), and a couple of weird glitches, where I had to reopen a dialog several times to make something work.
After spending quite some time figuring what Dekoh can and cannot do, I must admit I’m not too sure what to make of it. The developers should definitely do a better job separating the user experience from information aimed at developers. Users want to start it up and start playing with the cool stuff: make it simple for them to do that. Also, the Dekoh Desktop Portal doesn’t really cut it as a central place to start your applications: the whole experience feels more like opening and closing a bunch of separate services than running a set of apps in a common environment. The applications themselves, while not very numerous, are good, but I don’t see myself using them until the whole package is a bit more polished.
Ironbox (http://www.ironbox.com/)
http://franticindustries.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/ironbox.jpg
Ironbox greeted me with quite an unnerving message. It apperently works well only in IE6, IE7 to some extent, and Firefox 1.5. Fortunately, I’ve tried it out with Firefox 2.0 and I didn’t bump into any problems.
Ironbox is described by the developer as “a front-end platform to help build and deploy Web applications. It is also a Graphical User Interface (GUI) that hosts Web applications in a desktop environment entirely contained within and run by a browser. This is the Ironbox desktop.” This means that Ironbox is quite close to the definition of a true WebOS: a platform that enables you to develop and build applications, and a GUI to deploy them.
As far as actual functionality goes, Ironbox won’t help you do any everyday tasks, as the number of applications is currently very limited. But, this doesn’t mean that Ironbox is not interesting. In fact, it offers quite a few interesting options. It’s skinnable; it’s taskbar is draggable and can be placed on top or either side of the screen. The applications can work across several windows (called boxes in Ironbox), which can be seen in action when you start the Fungrid app, and the boxes themselves can be automatically tiled or stacked from the toolbar menu.
We won’t recommend Ironbox to everyday users, but developers should take a good look at it, as the code to deploy applications in it seems quite simple and straightforward, and the functionality is quite advanced.
Finally, let’s take a look at how the devs of Ironbox define a WebOS, or WOS as they call it: “What we call a WOS consists of Ironbox paired with an advanced, app-aware Server Component. As we see it, a WOS will go beyond the traditional website concept to become a server-based platform, a virtual operating system of sorts, accessible through one or more domain names. In this scenario, the Server Component fulfills requests from Ironbox apps, accesses databases, stores apps for distribution, keeps track of accounts such as who has what rights to what apps and data, and serves customized versions of Ironbox itself. A WOS implementation can target a specific industry or set of applications, or it can be for general purpose. Anyone with the right skills can build a WOS, either for their own use or to offer as a platform for others to deploy.“
GCOE X (http://www.gcoex.com/)
http://franticindustries.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/gcoex.jpg
GCOE X is in a very early alpha stage of development, but something tells me that it might be an interesting product in the future. It doesn’t have any other way of launching applications or creating/deleting new files than the command line utility, and the applications themselves are scarce: there’s a web browser, MP3 player, IM chat, and that’s pretty much it.
However, everything works very fast and seems to be quite stable. Flash hell website like Mtv.com didn’t cause any problems in the browser. The impression I get is that GCOE X would work great if only there was anything to actually do with it. Hopefully, the developers will add some useful features in the future.
A couple more to keep an eye on in the future:
Xindesk (http://www.xindesk.com/)
Xindesk was featured in the original WebOS review, and its lead developer, Mikael Bergkvist, was one of the most vocal supporters of the idea of a WebOS. Xindesk is not available as a beta yet, but I was allowed to have a quick peek into the alpha version, and I’ve also had a look at Challenger, another WebOS-type aplications that Xindesk has recently acquired, planning to merge the two services. At this point in time, there’s no point reviewing Xindesk as it will change significantly in the future after the merge, however from what I’ve seen Xindesk will definitely be a serious competitor in the WebOS space.
Exo (http://www.exoplatform.com/) - Currently consists out of some quite technical explanations (http://www.exoplatform.com/company/faces/public/site/home/products)and a couple of screenshots (http://www.flickr.com/photos/29715989@N00/) which admittedly look very promising. You can also see a video (http://download.forge.objectweb.org/exoplatform/demo.swf) here.
OOS (http://www.icube.at/oos.jsp) - no live demo yet, website says “soon”
Jooce (http://www.jooce.com/) - Currently in closed beta, haven’t been able to get an invite.
Xcerion (http://xcerion.com/) - Also in closed beta. Seems to be an ambitious project, but I’ve seen nothing to confirm their ambitions yet.
Startforce (http://startforce.com/) - described as “Japan’s best WebOS”, promises 15 applications, has an open API.
Widgetop (http://www.widgetop.com/) is by their own words, a Webtop, not a WebOS, merely bringing Apple Dashboard widgets to the web. The service is fully functional.
Go.PC (http://www.gopc.net/) - a commercial WebOS available - for some weird reason - only to residents of New Zealand and Australia. Go check the website, there’s a funny video there.

[CodeMasterX]

آقا واقعا دستتون درد نکنه، هر دو رو خوندم خیلی جالبه!
اینجا که اینترنت نداریم تو ایران باید بگیم دوستان و اشنایان خارج از کشور برامون ScreenShot بگرین بفرستن D:

[linux]

آقا واقعا دستتون درد نکنه، هر دو رو خوندم خیلی جالبه!
اینجا که اینترنت نداریم تو ایران باید بگیم دوستان و اشنایان خارج از کشور برامون ScreenShot بگرین بفرستن D:
http://demo.eyeos.org/
اسکرین شات نمی خواهد ! این دموش برو باهاش کار کن!
اولا به این ها خیلی سیستم عامل نمیشه گفت به هر حال شما باید یک سیستم عامل داشته باشید که یک وب بروزری داشته باشه که بتونید از این برنامه ها استفاده کنید.
خوبیش این هست که شما فایل ها و برنامه هاتون روی اینترنت هست.

[CodeMasterX]

Linux جان ممنون.
دیدمش، خیلی جالب بود، البته حرف شما کاملا درسته، به هر حال برای راه اندازی و مدیریت یک WebApp که حالا سیستم عامل هست(یعنی) خودش نیاز به یک سیستم عامل داره.ولی به حر حال نسل جدیدی از سیستم عامل ها خواهد بود.

کو تا ما توی ایران T1 ببندیم ! D:

[oxygenws]

اولا به این ها خیلی سیستم عامل نمیشه گفت به هر حال شما باید یک سیستم عامل داشته باشید که یک وب بروزری داشته باشه که بتونید از این برنامه ها استفاده کنید.
خوبیش این هست که شما فایل ها و برنامه هاتون روی اینترنت هست.اگر توی ستاپ مادربرد ات بخشی باشه برای اتصال شبکه و آدرس سایت اینترنتی و ...
مگه الان مادر برد قدرت بالا اومدن از یک سیستم عامل توی شبکه رو نداره؟!! :)
یک کم فکر کن، زیاد کار سختی نیست :دی

فقط یه پروتکل استاندارد برای بوت شدن از طریق اینترنت لازمه که الان نیست!! که به نظر میرسه اگر این قضیه همینطوری پیش بره، تا چندین سال دیگه این امکانات رو هم داشته باشیم :)

[hmm]

درضمن اینطوری با mobile هم میتونید با هر سیستم عاملی که خواستین کار کنین دیگه نیازی به به pc نیست.
وایضا دیگه به notebook هم نیازی نیست فایلهاتون که رو اینترنته هر جا رفتین یه کامپیوتر متصل به اینترنت گیر میارین یا میرین به یه کافی نت و ادامه کار و safa city

[linux]

اگر توی ستاپ مادربرد ات بخشی باشه برای اتصال شبکه و آدرس سایت اینترنتی و ...
مگه الان مادر برد قدرت بالا اومدن از یک سیستم عامل توی شبکه رو نداره؟!! :)
یک کم فکر کن، زیاد کار سختی نیست :دی

فقط یه پروتکل استاندارد برای بوت شدن از طریق اینترنت لازمه که الان نیست!! که به نظر میرسه اگر این قضیه همینطوری پیش بره، تا چندین سال دیگه این امکانات رو هم داشته باشیم :)
من خوشم نمی آید فایلهای مهمم روی کامپیوتر یک نفر دیگه باشه!

[someCoder]

من خوشم نمی آید فایلهای مهمم روی کامپیوتر یک نفر دیگه باشه!مگه الان مثلا email هات همش رو کامپیوتر خودته؟
پیشرفت تکنولوژی غیرقابل اجتنابه. 20 سال دیگه بهت قول میدم که همین اتفاق افتاده باشه.
از فایل های غیر مهم شروع میشه و کم کم همه چیز آنلاین میشه.

[CodeMasterX]

حالا که تکنولوژی به همچین سمت هایی داره میره (سیتم عامل های وب تاپ و MSSurface و ...) مبحث امنیت داده ها و امنیت شبکه خیلی داغ میشه که خوراک امثال منه!

بزن بریم Win64!

[hmm]

بزن بریم Win64!

چه ربطی به win64 داره!!! ببین بازم ویندوزی فکر میکنی

[CodeMasterX]

چه ربطی به win64 داره!!! ببین بازم ویندوزی فکر میکنی

چیکار کنیم دیگه به ویندوز معتاد شدیم :گیج:.
فقط یه مضاح بود، به دل نگیرید :لبخند:.

در ضمن یکی از دوستان هم اشاره کرد، من رفتم روی نت دنبالش.برای اجرای این سیستم عامل ها نیاز الزامی به سیستم عامل والد نیست.یه شرکت آلمانی داره روی یک مادربورد کار می کنه (همو.نجوری که دوستمون گفتم) که بوت میشه و بقیه کارها رو انجام میده.ولی هنوز هم من درست نمی فهمم که چجوری عملی هست ؟!

[oxygenws]

در ضمن یکی از دوستان هم اشاره کرد، من رفتم روی نت دنبالش.برای اجرای این سیستم عامل ها نیاز الزامی به سیستم عامل والد نیست.یه شرکت آلمانی داره روی یک مادربورد کار می کنه (همو.نجوری که دوستمون گفتم) که بوت میشه و بقیه کارها رو انجام میده.ولی هنوز هم من درست نمی فهمم که چجوری عملی هست ؟!
اسم و آدرس سایت اون شرکت رو داری؟؟

ضمن اینکه احتمالا برخی از این سیستم عامل ها رو میشه همین الان هم استفاده کرد... اولین سیستم عاملی که توی همین لینک ها بود، دقیقا یک لینوکس روی سیستم ِ سرور داری که می تونی از طریق شبکه به اون متصل بشه (دقیقا حالت بوت شدن تحت شبکه)

[titbasoft]

یکی میشه توضیح بده مزیت چنین سیستم عاملی برای کاربر چیه؟ در نگاه اول خوب چیزهایی مثل خروج از چهارچوب های دست و پا گیر دسکتاپ یکی از مزیت های این سیستم عامل ها به نظر می رسه اما از یک طرف خود موجودیت دسکتاپ هم برای خودش مزایایی داره. لطفا اگر کسی در این مورد مطالعه کرده توضیح بده که چرا به فکر بوجود آوردن چنین سیستم هایی افتادن؟

[oxygenws]

یکی میشه توضیح بده مزیت چنین سیستم عاملی برای کاربر چیه؟ در نگاه اول خوب چیزهایی مثل خروج از چهارچوب های دست و پا گیر دسکتاپ یکی از مزیت های این سیستم عامل ها به نظر می رسه اما از یک طرف خود موجودیت دسکتاپ هم برای خودش مزایایی داره. لطفا اگر کسی در این مورد مطالعه کرده توضیح بده که چرا به فکر بوجود آوردن چنین سیستم هایی افتادن؟
شاید دسترسی به همه چی از همه جا :) البته احتمالا به زودی این سایت ها توی ایران فیلتر می شن... چون میشه برای اهداف دور زدن پ.ر.و.ک.س.ی هم ازشون استفاده کرد :دی

[CodeMasterX]

بازهم شرمنده آقایون شدیم.
من این خبر رو توی سایت ایتنا خوندم که هیچ اشاره ای به اسم شرکت، آدرس و ... نکرده بود.فقط گفته بود داره برای یک طرح تولید انبوه تا سال 2009 روی همچین سیستمی کار می کنه و پروژه نزدیک به 60% با موفقیت جلو رفته.من دیگه چون می دونستم همچین کاری شدنی هست و قبلا هم تا سطوحی انجام شده خیلی به خبر گیر ندادم که صحت داره یا نه.حالا درست هم که نباشه همین روزها Intel و CICSO میدنش بیرون.

در مورد اون فیلتر گذاری که گفتین :

فیلترکردن اینا که خوبه، من حتی سایت های آموزشی دانشگاه های آمریکا و کانادا رو هم نمیتونم ببینم، شبکه های خبری بین المللی فیلتر شدن، سایت ها درست و حسابی هوش مصنوعی،مهندسی نرم افزار و الکترونیکی که من میشناسم همه فیلتر شدن.

[Inprise]

فقط در مورد موضوع صحبت کنید که نوشته ها حذف نشن یا مجبور به قفل کردن مبحث نشیم .

[titbasoft]

شاید دسترسی به همه چی از همه جا :)آیا تنها راه رسیدن به چنین چیزی فقط سیستم عامل وب بیس هست؟ منظورم رو واضح تر بگم اینکه، ببینید وظایف یک سیستم عامل یکسری چیز مشخصه، حالا اینکه ما این وظایف رو بخواهیم روی وب کنترل کنیم چه مزیتی داره؟ اینکه سیستم شما از روی وب بوت بشه چه مزیتی داره؟ اینکه کنترل پراسس ها وب بیس باشه، اینکه Memory Management وب بیس باشه و چیزهایی از این دست. و آیا با پیشرفت های که Remoting کرده آیا پاسخ گوی این نیازها نیست؟ و آیا اینکه لازمه داشتن یک سیستم یکپارچه داشتن یک سیستم عامل وب بیسه؟ خوب همین الان هم میشه با استفاده از پروتوکل هایی چون FTP چنین امکاناتی رو داشت پس چرا سیستم عامل وب بیس؟

[CodeMasterX]

به نظر من که اگر قرار باشه در همچین سطح و با همچین هدفی پیش بره مزیت که نداره هیچ کلی هم درد سر طراحی امنیت و بهینه سازی منابع رو در پیش داره.

[oxygenws]

آیا تنها راه رسیدن به چنین چیزی فقط سیستم عامل وب بیس هست؟ منظورم رو واضح تر بگم اینکه، ببینید وظایف یک سیستم عامل یکسری چیز مشخصه، حالا اینکه ما این وظایف رو بخواهیم روی وب کنترل کنیم چه مزیتی داره؟ اینکه سیستم شما از روی وب بوت بشه چه مزیتی داره؟ اینکه کنترل پراسس ها وب بیس باشه، اینکه Memory Management وب بیس باشه و چیزهایی از این دست. و آیا با پیشرفت های که Remoting کرده آیا پاسخ گوی این نیازها نیست؟ و آیا اینکه لازمه داشتن یک سیستم یکپارچه داشتن یک سیستم عامل وب بیسه؟ خوب همین الان هم میشه با استفاده از پروتوکل هایی چون FTP چنین امکاناتی رو داشت پس چرا سیستم عامل وب بیس؟
این سایت ها رو دیدی؟؟ سایتی مثل eyeos رو دیدی؟؟ این چنین سایت هایی فقط نام سیستم عامل رو به یدک می کشند :)
بهتره الان این سایت ها (خدمات) رو دو دسته کنیم... اونهایی که واقعا یک سیستم عامل هستند (و اصولا ۱۰۰٪ نمی تونند وب بیس باشند) و اونهایی که فقط شبیه سیستم عامل هستند.

[Inprise]

وظایف یک سیستم عامل یکسری چیز مشخصه، حالا اینکه ما این وظایف رو بخواهیم روی وب کنترل کنیم چه مزیتی داره؟

کتاب آسمانی ای در مورد باید و نبایدهای سیستم عامل وجود نداره . سیستمهای عامل امروز خیلی خیلی خیلی با ایده هائی که سی سال قبل در مورد سیستم عامل وجود داشت تفاوت میکنن ، سی سال دیگه بدون تردید برنامه نویسهای اون روز به مسائل من و توی امروز و نگاهمون به سیستم عامل میخندن ، اگر میخواهی اینو دقیق و واقعی حس کنی کافیه به خاطرات خودت یا افرادی که با داس 4 و مکینتاش 2.1 و ترمینالهای مین فریمهای آی بی ام کار میکردند مراجعه کن ؛ که تازه این خیلی هم مثال خوبی نیست چون مواردی که گفتم مال سی سال قبل نیستن .

یکی از وظایف فیوچریست ها تغییر لبه های تکنولوژی برای تحقق خیالها و آرزوها هست . فناوری های بیسیم امروز ، مثلا چیزی مانند وای مکس ، سی سال قبل فقط یک خیال و توهم بودند اما امروز حتی در کشورهای جهان سوم در دسترس هستند ... . رویای زندگی واقعی شبکه ای ، دسترسی به منابع در هر نقطه و انتقال واقعی مایملک دیجیتال افراد همراه آنها ، کمرنگ شدن نیاز به وجود ابزارهای بزرگ و گران و مزاحم مانند PC برای یک زندگی دیجیتال عادی و تمایل به فناوری های موبایل و Embedded و نانو-مقیاس و ...مسیری هست که طی سالهای آینده طی میشه . در این مسیر خیلی ها ایده های مختلف رو امتحان میکنن و اگر برخی از این ایده ها بتونن خیالها و تصورات برخی رو به واقعیت نزدیک کنن موفق میشن ، ایده سیستم عامل های مبتنی بر وب رو هم میشه همینطور نگاه کرد .
Virtuallization به این دلیل این روزا خیلی مورد توجه هست چون نزدیک شدن به یک فضای شبکه ای و قابل انتقال رو میسر میکنه ، و میتونه کمک کنه مثلا تمام کارمندان یک سازمان با یک سامانه خیلی ارزان و سبک به شبکه داخلی Wireless ATM سازمان وصل بشن ، با دانگلی که دارن احراز هویت و بعد سیستم عامل و نرم افزارهائی که براشون مناسب هست رو دریافت و استفاده کنن و در انتهای جلسه باز همه چیز به سرور مرکزی برمیگرده و در یک محیط مجازی ، مایملک هر کاربر مستقل است و خود سازمان بر همه چیز اشراف داره ، مسئله لیسانس نرم افزار ها ، وظایف شغلی ، امنیت ، هویت دیجیتال ، نظارت بر مالکیت دیجیتال سازمان و ...ابعاد دیگری از این نوع کاربرد هستن و این فقط و فقط یکی از صد ها مثال موجود بود .

من وقتی برنامه نویس جدی ای بودم هنوز Floppy Disk مهمترین ابزار انتقال بود ، Laptop ای که هفته قبل خریدم حتی Floppy Drive هم نداره ! چقدر گذشته ؟ هیچی . به همین سادگی .

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